INTERVIEW FOR COUNSELOR MAGAZINE ARTICLE

Stephanie Muller, editor   1/12/07

 

Steve Bergman and Janet Surrey

 

 

As we began to treat more and more alcoholics and addicts in therapy, and suggest that they go to AA, we realized we needed to attend AA meetings, to see what they were really about—otherwise we could not authentically recommend that our patients go.  At the meetings we were astonished at the honesty, suffering, and mutual caring and healing, and from that time on, when we took on any alcoholic or addict in therapy, we insisted that they have ³a meaningful connection to AA.²  This meant going to meetings, getting a sponsor, etc.

 

 

The idea for the play came to us in 1986.  We wanted to work together, and decided to choose two projects: one from each of our areas of expertise.  Janet, as a founder of the Stone Center at Wellesley College, had been conducting workshops on Cape Cod on her theories of womenıs psychological development, and suggested that we do a workshop on ³The Male Female Relationship.²  That work, with 20,000 men and women and boys and girls, led to our nonfiction book: WE HAVE TO TALK: HEALING DIALOGUES BETWEEN WOMEN AND MEN (Basic, 98), and a curriculum, MAKING CONNECTION: BUILDING GENDER DIALOGUE AND COMMUNITY IN SECONDARY SCHOOL (Educators for Social Responsibility, 07).  Given Steveıs expertise, we decided to write a play.  We found the story of Bill Wilson, and then Bob Smith, and were overwhelmed with the power and drama of it—we decided to write a play about the relationship between the two men that led to the founding of AA.  First we held a reading in our house for invited guests, then a staged reading at a small theatre.  At this staging, an old man stood up and said he had known Bill Wilson.  We asked what Bill was like, and he said, ³Bill was the kind of man who could talk a dog off a meat wagon!²  (We use this line in the play.)  The first performance was sponsored by the Gloucester Treatment Network for a weekend.  The audience came from all over, including Boston, addicts and alcoholics and their families, and was a huge success.  Many of the people had never been in a theatre before, and we had to tell them, during intermission as they were walking out, that there was a second act!  After that there was a professional production in Boston sponsored by the non-profit Massachusetts Housing Finance Agency, Emerson College, and Harvard Medical School, and a year later after a brief Boston production the play moved to San Diego for the 60th anniversary International Conference of AA.  Last March it was done at the 400-seat New Repertory Theatre in Boston for a sold-out run, and will open Off Broadway at New World Stages on March 5.  (for information go to http://www.billwanddrbobtheplay.com) The audiences are not only people in recovery and their families and friends, but the normal theatre audience.  We always wanted the play to achieve two things: to be true to the AA story, and to be a great play!

 

 

The play itself is done by six actors: Bill, Bob, their wives, and a man and a woman who play many roles (probably about 15, weıve lost count).  There is also a piano player on stage.  It starts with a man standing up and talking to the audience: ³My nameıs Bill W. and Iım an alcoholic.²  (At which point many in the audience shout out, ³Hi Bill!² and everyone laughs).  On the other side of the stage: ³Dr. Bob here, alcoholic.  Good to be here sober.²  They start to tell their stories, which overlap, and then the rest of the play is our seeing their stories onstage, dramatized—their lives, their meeting, and how they struggled to find a third person to join them. The play ends with both men onstage as in the beginning, each saying, ³And so as I come to the end of my storyв

 

 

The play has been revised countless times, from 1986 to last week.  The remarkable thing is that the story is always the same, but the play keeps getting better.  We cut extraneous material, change scenes and orders of scenes, make sure we are getting the ³period² of the 30s right, and, finally, being sure to write each character as a person in trouble just trying to stay alive—not knowing that they are involved in the founding of AA.

 

 

Anne Smith and Lois Wilson are crucial to the play—and to the founding of AA and Al Anon (technically founded by Lois a year after Anne died).  We see the cost of alcoholism to each of them, their torment and resolve—neither of them divorced their men—and then how they had to accept the life mission of their husbands, and how to live with them sober.  This last difficulty led to their realizing that they had to have a support group, as families of alcoholics, and this led to Al Anon.  Sue Window, Bobıs daughter, told us that in her mind her mother Anne was the real founder of AA: her constant faith, and opening her house to Bill in Akron in the summer of Œ35, and holding it all together—this is what Sue meant.  Women in the audience identify strongly with being the wife of an alcoholic. In a talkback after one performance a woman stood up and said, ³I am Lois!²

 

 

Every time the play has been done it has been received with almost unanimous enthusiasm.  Alcoholics and addicts feel affirmed, and relieved that others who come will finally understand what they have gone through, and what AA truly is—not a ³cult,² not a ³religious² organization (both Bill and Bob, when theyıd met, were no enthusiastic about organized religion).  One man said, ³I feel like the last stigma about going to AA has finally been removed.²  Others have said: ³This isnıt just a great play, itıs a phenomenon.²  This means, we think, that sitting in the theatre is a vital spiritual experience, for those with issues of addiction, and not.  This is because at its core this play and story is not just about alcohol, itıs about the power of mutual connection to heal.  The astonishing thing that these men found was, in Billıs words, ³The only thing that can keep a drunk sober is telling his story to another drunk.²  No one in human history had put ³healing² in that way, explicitly, before—the ³mutual² nature of it.  It has led to a transformation of health practice: never before were there ³breast cancer groups² or ³survivor groups² etc.  At the end of the play the audience sits in silence, a silence of the touched spirit.

 

This play can be a great help in clearing up misconceptions, and helping others to ³get it.²  Addiction counselors will understand what the essentials—practical and spiritual—of this healing process are.  Many times we have heard that some alcoholics will start to seek treatment after seeing the play—of their families will seek out Al Anon, or, sometimes, those who have relapsed will come back to AA.  One dark night after a  performance we were walking out of the theatre and there were some ominous-seeming teenagers on the street corner, and we asked if theyıd seen the play and one of them pointed at the theatre and said, ³Those two guys saved my life!²  As they say, ³Pass it on!²